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Thanks for your two cents Sanjay! That was a great take. Thanks for the original ideas.
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A Bad Recruiter Networking
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Posted 08-10-2008Reply
In our daily life as recruiter these are certain flaws we make it in the name of networking .This is to help others to do a proactive networking rather termed as bad recruiter….
Here are the ones we do it regularly
Contact collectors
They use their so-called "network" to establish their credibility in the industry and people actually congratulate them for it. These are the people that try to connect with you via some networking tool, but there's never any exchange of info. You are a number to them ("Let's all congratulate so-and-so on their one-thousandth person in their network"). I don't connect with these people. Really, how valuable can their "network" of 1500 people be, given that they asked me to join and I don't know them? One thing I have noticed about the people that do this is that they try to establish their industry in other ways too (creating cool sounding titles that don't exist, working feverishly to book speaking engagements). There's a credibility issue there. .
(Need to take notice ,very much important ,even me included …J )
Do-my-job-for-me
These one check it out. I get an e-mail from someone I don't know asking for help with a position they are trying to fill (not a recruiter position....one of their open requisitions). Without much lead-in, they dump the job descriptions on you and let you know that "any help would be greatly appreciated"
These are the folks that know that they should be in contact with you but they don't know why. The mails are awkward and sometimes overly complimentary. They want to keep in touch with you but they don't know how. They are probably more selective than the contact collectors, but they don't know what they are driving for.
Here's is the philosophy on networking and some tips for effective networking
¨ Effective networking is a relationship. A network of any value is a connected group of trusted individuals. That trust comes from knowing them. In the internet age, you can find just about anyone online. So unless your own network is trusted, there's little value. The way I think about these relationships is like this:
what's in it for me + what's in it for you) X (trust through knowing you) = relationship
the what's in it for me/you piece gets established straight away.
This is how you share. You obviously want to get something out of the relationship, but
you need to offer something too. That gives you a platform to build from. It
makes you a "contact". The exchange of valuable information between the 2
people is what makes it a "relationship". That is a building process.
¨ Have a point.
Even if you are just contacting the person to ask a question. I get mails all the time from folks who want to "synch up". My question: "about what?" Points are good. Everyone should have one. I certainly don't mind answering questions from anyone if I have the info
¨ Know what's in it for them, but don't force it on them.
If someone contacts me because they want information on how I do something, they should be able to articulate what I can learn from them as well. Frame it as sharing: "I'd love to get your thoughts on XYZ. We are doing some exciting things with regard to ABC if you are at all interested in hearing about that". I do a lot of this kind of sharing with people and I find it really valuable. It justifies the time investment.
If your first contact isn't quid pro quo, be a giver...you can be a taker later.
I get mails from people saying "Hey Heather...you are fabulous...and by the way, I thought you would be interested in this article". I love that! The ones who I've never heard of before that want me to help them fill their open position...well, those mails get deleted
Note : We as recruiters that we tend to do it out of responsibility on us and client urgency to fill the positions .. It is not to say that way we are doing is wrong ,we need to use network in such a way that the relationship doesn’t get lost .
So, beware of the "contact collectors." Remember, it's ok to ignore or reject contact requests. Don't feel obligatory to accept every contact request you get. Learn to say NO.
Network to "build relationships." Don't network to show off the numbers in your contact list.
Be clear about what you can help with or how you can help your contacts. Be clear about your goals (what you want / what you need help with). And choose contacts that fit your "I-can-help-with" - "I-need-help-with" strategy.
Don't stop there though - no matter if they fit into your "give-ask" strategy or not, always be looking to network with the following two groups of people:
1. Like-minded people - who can be part of your potential or current master mind group. People whose "passions" and goals are similar to yours. People who can strike the right chord with you! Associating with this group would be invaluable, especially in the long run.
2. People who have accomplished great things in their chosen careers. Leaders. Associating with this group would be vital for your career growth.
Finally, no matter if someone is your contact or not, always be looking to help. Help someone everyday, preferably anonymously. Be willing to help, not expecting anything in return. Your good karma would pay off. And even if wouldn't pay off, just do it anyway.
Balaji - thanks a ton for sharing! If read diligently and applied, this small piece of writing could turn an ordinary networker into a super networker.
Network to "build relationships." Don't network to show off the numbers in your contact list.
Be clear about what you can help with or how you can help your contacts. Be clear about your goals (what you want / what you need help with). And choose contacts that fit your "I-can-help-with" - "I-need-help-with" strategy.
Don't stop there though - no matter if they fit into your "give-ask" strategy or not, always be looking to network with the following two groups of people:
1. Like-minded people - who can be part of your potential or current master mind group. People whose "passions" and goals are similar to yours. People who can strike the right chord with you! Associating with this group would be invaluable, especially in the long run.
2. People who have accomplished great things in their chosen careers. Leaders. Associating with this group would be vital for your career growth.
Finally, no matter if someone is your contact or not, always be looking to help. Help someone everyday, preferably anonymously. Be willing to help, not expecting anything in return. Your good karma would pay off. And even if wouldn't pay off, just do it anyway.
Balaji - thanks a ton for sharing! If read diligently and applied, this small piece of writing could turn an ordinary networker into a super networker.
Interesting networking Gyan ..here ,
Other day i spotted a book in a shop at vashi on networked marketer from some mohit sardana .That book was sealed u cant surf thru the stuff to get feel of whats in there ...now i know why this chap became best network marketer.
Connect and sell herbal products , Soaps, Utensils , Gold coins or simple anything including jobs ....Bigger the network better chances of getting ur targets ..umm i cud hv quoted dumbs ...
I Appreciate some of points abt trust and relationships in a network .I think someone can have ...clarity on what he/she is trying sell ...please dont mind in my view recruitment is all abt selling ur goodies to most fitting candidate .
I am not against any school of thought ..depends on what are you trying to achieve and at what cost .if thats a generic product,interest area for masses ....a huge network shud help .If the circle of influence is limited someone can have a well branched out network to address specific targeted audience and thus to achieve better results .Such Spammers don't care if the reciepient deletes the mails or does not read that .
Well a close network to latch on for an SOS situations is advisable and you should not be flooding them with all sorts of communication reason that does not ensure response to your requests ...al the time , in essence you lighten ur profile /value to them.
Point is why recruiters have to have 500+ connections all the time , why they dont understand that a focussed network and clear relationships in one domain/skill area is lot better than an unmanageable database.And yes i sort of dont like please see if you can send it to ur friends ...what the heck do u think i have built my relationshisp for routing ur spam to ....
Hpow can someone dream of getting any quality response to such whacky requests .Boss... thats ur job you gotta do that , dont expect me to revert to u with references and what's there in it for me .Incentives and returns have to be clear right at the mail start ....u get to win 30K, 50K and how ...i gotta know you ....we need to have had at least 5 chat/tel. interactions lil beyond hello/hi to trust your offer .
MY Two Cents ...
Other day i spotted a book in a shop at vashi on networked marketer from some mohit sardana .That book was sealed u cant surf thru the stuff to get feel of whats in there ...now i know why this chap became best network marketer.
Connect and sell herbal products , Soaps, Utensils , Gold coins or simple anything including jobs ....Bigger the network better chances of getting ur targets ..umm i cud hv quoted dumbs ...
I Appreciate some of points abt trust and relationships in a network .I think someone can have ...clarity on what he/she is trying sell ...please dont mind in my view recruitment is all abt selling ur goodies to most fitting candidate .
I am not against any school of thought ..depends on what are you trying to achieve and at what cost .if thats a generic product,interest area for masses ....a huge network shud help .If the circle of influence is limited someone can have a well branched out network to address specific targeted audience and thus to achieve better results .Such Spammers don't care if the reciepient deletes the mails or does not read that .
Well a close network to latch on for an SOS situations is advisable and you should not be flooding them with all sorts of communication reason that does not ensure response to your requests ...al the time , in essence you lighten ur profile /value to them.
Point is why recruiters have to have 500+ connections all the time , why they dont understand that a focussed network and clear relationships in one domain/skill area is lot better than an unmanageable database.And yes i sort of dont like please see if you can send it to ur friends ...what the heck do u think i have built my relationshisp for routing ur spam to ....
Hpow can someone dream of getting any quality response to such whacky requests .Boss... thats ur job you gotta do that , dont expect me to revert to u with references and what's there in it for me .Incentives and returns have to be clear right at the mail start ....u get to win 30K, 50K and how ...i gotta know you ....we need to have had at least 5 chat/tel. interactions lil beyond hello/hi to trust your offer .
MY Two Cents ...
Interesting networking Gyan ..here ,
Other day i spotted a book in a shop at vashi on... See Sanjay's complete reply
Other day i spotted a book in a shop at vashi on... See Sanjay's complete reply
Thanks for your two cents Sanjay! That was a great take. Thanks for the original ideas.
Hi,
It's really an appreciating your perception regarding people network with other's to show of their numbers. But this saying is not always true. I agree people use their network to get their job done. But people also get in touch with other's to get latest news or market trends. In other words we can say to share or gain knowledge. I agree most of people use their network to show of numbers in front of their bosses or get their job done through their network. But people may use to share knowledge of latest market updates. Suppose being a recruiter sometimes we don't know that some or other company is hiring Vice president to fill up their position. Sometimes we get to know that they a company have hired a Director. We at the same time not able to poach that company for that position. But we can think of getting business with them. As your saying we still using this as to get our work done. But a knowledgeable work or task is being done. According to my perception being a researcher in a company, is to get the latest market updates, whether it could be through network or anything. I don't think so getting connected with a new one connection is to see whether he/she is demanding some task to be get done by us. I don't know whether i am correct or not according to your perception.
Regards,
Kshitij
It's really an appreciating your perception regarding people network with other's to show of their numbers. But this saying is not always true. I agree people use their network to get their job done. But people also get in touch with other's to get latest news or market trends. In other words we can say to share or gain knowledge. I agree most of people use their network to show of numbers in front of their bosses or get their job done through their network. But people may use to share knowledge of latest market updates. Suppose being a recruiter sometimes we don't know that some or other company is hiring Vice president to fill up their position. Sometimes we get to know that they a company have hired a Director. We at the same time not able to poach that company for that position. But we can think of getting business with them. As your saying we still using this as to get our work done. But a knowledgeable work or task is being done. According to my perception being a researcher in a company, is to get the latest market updates, whether it could be through network or anything. I don't think so getting connected with a new one connection is to see whether he/she is demanding some task to be get done by us. I don't know whether i am correct or not according to your perception.
Regards,
Kshitij
Interesting topic,
I am conducting a research on this form of network with a prof in Harvard to identify why people want to connect this way... From our research we have the following to offer
People with more than 500 plus connections tend to use them as a way to demonstrate their networking capability online and it ends there. No real leverage results out of the relationship. People with a Zillion contacts are invariably recruitment consultants who want to maintain a wide and a deep database for their initiatives. So, that explains the numbers
A research conducted by one of the IVY league universities that people can effectively manage and maintain 150 people in their network. Yes, 150... Now the 150 people are the one with whom you can go out have a beer, know their families they know you and you are comfortable interacting or interrupting at any given point of time. Meaning these are the guys you are available to help you at the other end of the phone... When you look at your list, you will be surprised by how near or far you are from that number.. I cant remember which paper, will try and find it and post it if i get hold of it.. Guess Dementia is setting in...Sigh... When i read this i thought nah! and when i went and looked at the list i was surprised to note that many people have been there on the network bcos, they were friends friends who wanted me to be part of your network, Someone whose profile struck a chord, some one who you knew, someone who sent a mass invite and ofcourse loads of recruiters... I have made it a point to send a mail to anyone who connects with me as to what i can offer and what they want and vice versa. If people cant be bothered to respond, they arent serious...So they are time wasters... Networking is about effectiveness not efficiency..
Going back to the research you have two forms of networkers, social & online. Put that in a two by two with low & high scale for the two by two... Now rank people who you know in this... YOu will be surprised to note that you would have populated more on the social or the physical form of networking...which goes to show, just online interaction is not enough. You need a catalyst and forums like these act as one. However, for you to leverage the actual power of networking you need to be in touch atleast a phone call to generate a positive functional relationship... I would be interested to see how many of you can actually boast of more than 150 connections...
Regarding people looking for speaking engagement comment... I strongly believe that this is a age of individual branding and people are trying to establish themselves as specialists in a certain field. As a result they try to speak in conferences, write articles, blog etc in that area. Nothing wrong with that as we need to learn from these guys as to how they are positoning themselves...So even without saying something we still learn something from them..
The rudderless boats do my job for me guys... I would be wary of them... why would you want to praise me for something stupid... These people as i see it want to boast they are part of your network, if you are established person, that makes them sound more credible isnt it.. I call them rudderless boats bcos when you get in touch with them they sound so wishy washy speak with a lots of hmms and ummms... I would stay a mile away as they are time wasters. These are people who can always and will always look at you with awe but cant contribute anything... Networking is a two way street. You cant be a giver or a taker always... Cleanse these profiles if you have to from your list...
In an age where not know how but know who matters you are better off screening the persons profile before accepting the invite..
In a network scenario you have to have knowledge exchange, intellectual brainstorming and in a forum like this help understand problems and challenges that people face globally and transfer that learning to the local scenario..
Would love to hear what people think...
I am conducting a research on this form of network with a prof in Harvard to identify why people want to connect this way... From our research we have the following to offer
People with more than 500 plus connections tend to use them as a way to demonstrate their networking capability online and it ends there. No real leverage results out of the relationship. People with a Zillion contacts are invariably recruitment consultants who want to maintain a wide and a deep database for their initiatives. So, that explains the numbers
A research conducted by one of the IVY league universities that people can effectively manage and maintain 150 people in their network. Yes, 150... Now the 150 people are the one with whom you can go out have a beer, know their families they know you and you are comfortable interacting or interrupting at any given point of time. Meaning these are the guys you are available to help you at the other end of the phone... When you look at your list, you will be surprised by how near or far you are from that number.. I cant remember which paper, will try and find it and post it if i get hold of it.. Guess Dementia is setting in...Sigh... When i read this i thought nah! and when i went and looked at the list i was surprised to note that many people have been there on the network bcos, they were friends friends who wanted me to be part of your network, Someone whose profile struck a chord, some one who you knew, someone who sent a mass invite and ofcourse loads of recruiters... I have made it a point to send a mail to anyone who connects with me as to what i can offer and what they want and vice versa. If people cant be bothered to respond, they arent serious...So they are time wasters... Networking is about effectiveness not efficiency..
Going back to the research you have two forms of networkers, social & online. Put that in a two by two with low & high scale for the two by two... Now rank people who you know in this... YOu will be surprised to note that you would have populated more on the social or the physical form of networking...which goes to show, just online interaction is not enough. You need a catalyst and forums like these act as one. However, for you to leverage the actual power of networking you need to be in touch atleast a phone call to generate a positive functional relationship... I would be interested to see how many of you can actually boast of more than 150 connections...
Regarding people looking for speaking engagement comment... I strongly believe that this is a age of individual branding and people are trying to establish themselves as specialists in a certain field. As a result they try to speak in conferences, write articles, blog etc in that area. Nothing wrong with that as we need to learn from these guys as to how they are positoning themselves...So even without saying something we still learn something from them..
The rudderless boats do my job for me guys... I would be wary of them... why would you want to praise me for something stupid... These people as i see it want to boast they are part of your network, if you are established person, that makes them sound more credible isnt it.. I call them rudderless boats bcos when you get in touch with them they sound so wishy washy speak with a lots of hmms and ummms... I would stay a mile away as they are time wasters. These are people who can always and will always look at you with awe but cant contribute anything... Networking is a two way street. You cant be a giver or a taker always... Cleanse these profiles if you have to from your list...
In an age where not know how but know who matters you are better off screening the persons profile before accepting the invite..
In a network scenario you have to have knowledge exchange, intellectual brainstorming and in a forum like this help understand problems and challenges that people face globally and transfer that learning to the local scenario..
Would love to hear what people think...
Hey Kshitiz and Ram,
Interesting views .First Kshitiz using networks for sharing gyan ..or identifying leads is ok .in fact coolest ways to hook up to decision makers are networks these days .Online Marketplaces are too cluttered and spoilt for choices ....with everyone claiming to be a lead er there , it gets difficult to identify wheat from chaff .
Social networks are a great deal better reason you bump into some common friends/connects and u can always crosscheck references/credibility of the person you are latching on to .
Ram...150 beer friends is way too good provided 85 pay all the time .that was on the lighter side .very interesting inputs ...as you rightly said zillion connections recruiters carry still they fail to get right clicks they desperately need .I Guess reason are networks itself ...as you would see current set of features on linkedin, hr-link and various other forums show you network updates and if soemone with a huge network can put a genuine clip in status or opportunities section without flooding people with all sorts of quotes/anecdotes and vacancies ...people would appreciate referring friends/themselves or their networks to the opportunities posted .
Its not bad to have numbers but how to structure ur network to leverage value out of hard work you have put into building a collosal framework is the key .
With a huge network another problem is not only to manage but build thereon reason if you know 1000 people another 10K people know you and chances are 1000 more would like to connect to ur profile ..may be for their own interests .a typical snowballing effect makes it difficult to manage the roll out .
You may not choose to ignore requests from someone like you who is expanding ....at the same time you dont see any value on adding that new connect.
IMO manitaing 2-3 set of contacts is helpful.
1.SOS Network
2.We Know them
3.Hey There .
You can have your own tools (mailing lists/excels) to manage these relationships .
I am online on 3-4 messengers most of the time and i prioritize contacts on various messengers depending on the set they belong to .
Regards
Sanjay
Interesting views .First Kshitiz using networks for sharing gyan ..or identifying leads is ok .in fact coolest ways to hook up to decision makers are networks these days .Online Marketplaces are too cluttered and spoilt for choices ....with everyone claiming to be a lead er there , it gets difficult to identify wheat from chaff .
Social networks are a great deal better reason you bump into some common friends/connects and u can always crosscheck references/credibility of the person you are latching on to .
Ram...150 beer friends is way too good provided 85 pay all the time .that was on the lighter side .very interesting inputs ...as you rightly said zillion connections recruiters carry still they fail to get right clicks they desperately need .I Guess reason are networks itself ...as you would see current set of features on linkedin, hr-link and various other forums show you network updates and if soemone with a huge network can put a genuine clip in status or opportunities section without flooding people with all sorts of quotes/anecdotes and vacancies ...people would appreciate referring friends/themselves or their networks to the opportunities posted .
Its not bad to have numbers but how to structure ur network to leverage value out of hard work you have put into building a collosal framework is the key .
With a huge network another problem is not only to manage but build thereon reason if you know 1000 people another 10K people know you and chances are 1000 more would like to connect to ur profile ..may be for their own interests .a typical snowballing effect makes it difficult to manage the roll out .
You may not choose to ignore requests from someone like you who is expanding ....at the same time you dont see any value on adding that new connect.
IMO manitaing 2-3 set of contacts is helpful.
1.SOS Network
2.We Know them
3.Hey There .
You can have your own tools (mailing lists/excels) to manage these relationships .
I am online on 3-4 messengers most of the time and i prioritize contacts on various messengers depending on the set they belong to .
Regards
Sanjay
Very interesting read indeed !! My take on this :
Be it professional networking or social networking sites, recruiters are always followed. I am not saying that all recruiting professionals are popular figures to hang out with, but its an occupational hazard.
For example, there are times when I suddenly get a call from very old accomplices who talk to me as if we are brothers who got separated due to stroke of luck. No pun intended. These same people haven’t bothered to call or get in touch with me for years. Guess why all this affection ? It’s THAT time of their careers when they are looking out for a change. That’s when they take out the list of all the recruiter friends whom they know and start getting cozy with them. Invariably, 90% of such calls/getting-back-in-touch scraps/pings are only for applying for a job. I am not averse to such relationships, as I feel as a recruiter I would like to take it in my stride and make the best use of it rather than crib about it. I have been able to successfully refer such people to jobs over the years and I think it only adds to our profession. I agree that we cannot build long lasting relationships through such networking, but a professional networking site is hardly a place I would want to build life long relationships.
Because much as we would like to, it’s a fast paced life we all lead and our priorities change so very often. Who knows, I might not be able to login to any of my professional networking sites after 3-4 months or 2-3 years from now.
But am sure even in that eventuality, I would be on my social networking site, where only those who know me, are my buddies. To me, a relationship is a sacred thing. They are my true friends for keeps, for a long time, maybe a life time too.
The only reason I am on professional networking sites is because I feel I have something to offer and in turn learn from the wisdom of not just the senior members but also the varied perspective I might get from a fresher too. And I am not ashamed when I say that I would love to learn from relatively lesser experienced members than me, because after all, experience is a relative term. It is entirely possible that someone with just 1-3 years in the industry may have experienced which I might not have had the opportunity to learn in my 13 years of experience. It is entirely possible. People who evaluate such contact-requests with am-senior-he/she is-junior or i-don’t-know-him/her or what’s-in-it-for-me perspective actually make me wonder why they are here if they know everything in the domain/industry. Is it just to vomit their knowledge on people ? Only sharing (two-way) helps knowledge, however niche it is OR has been acquired with how much ever hard work. It becomes null and void unless harnessed with a positive frame of mind.
After all, learning doesn’t stop till you end up in a grave, right ? To achieve that end, if I have to accept connect-requests from unknown professionals on a professional sites, so be it. I wouldn’t mind.
Because if I wanted to connect only to people whom I know, I would be on my social networking site and not on a professional networking site.
Cheers !!!
Be it professional networking or social networking sites, recruiters are always followed. I am not saying that all recruiting professionals are popular figures to hang out with, but its an occupational hazard.
For example, there are times when I suddenly get a call from very old accomplices who talk to me as if we are brothers who got separated due to stroke of luck. No pun intended. These same people haven’t bothered to call or get in touch with me for years. Guess why all this affection ? It’s THAT time of their careers when they are looking out for a change. That’s when they take out the list of all the recruiter friends whom they know and start getting cozy with them. Invariably, 90% of such calls/getting-back-in-touch scraps/pings are only for applying for a job. I am not averse to such relationships, as I feel as a recruiter I would like to take it in my stride and make the best use of it rather than crib about it. I have been able to successfully refer such people to jobs over the years and I think it only adds to our profession. I agree that we cannot build long lasting relationships through such networking, but a professional networking site is hardly a place I would want to build life long relationships.
Because much as we would like to, it’s a fast paced life we all lead and our priorities change so very often. Who knows, I might not be able to login to any of my professional networking sites after 3-4 months or 2-3 years from now.
But am sure even in that eventuality, I would be on my social networking site, where only those who know me, are my buddies. To me, a relationship is a sacred thing. They are my true friends for keeps, for a long time, maybe a life time too.
The only reason I am on professional networking sites is because I feel I have something to offer and in turn learn from the wisdom of not just the senior members but also the varied perspective I might get from a fresher too. And I am not ashamed when I say that I would love to learn from relatively lesser experienced members than me, because after all, experience is a relative term. It is entirely possible that someone with just 1-3 years in the industry may have experienced which I might not have had the opportunity to learn in my 13 years of experience. It is entirely possible. People who evaluate such contact-requests with am-senior-he/she is-junior or i-don’t-know-him/her or what’s-in-it-for-me perspective actually make me wonder why they are here if they know everything in the domain/industry. Is it just to vomit their knowledge on people ? Only sharing (two-way) helps knowledge, however niche it is OR has been acquired with how much ever hard work. It becomes null and void unless harnessed with a positive frame of mind.
After all, learning doesn’t stop till you end up in a grave, right ? To achieve that end, if I have to accept connect-requests from unknown professionals on a professional sites, so be it. I wouldn’t mind.
Because if I wanted to connect only to people whom I know, I would be on my social networking site and not on a professional networking site.
Cheers !!!
Great Topic for Discussion,
But don't you think even HRLink.in appreciates those who have more points.
Im against just making number of contacts increase in your network cycle but at the same time its good to have variety of networked talent pool so that its an ease for one to enhance market knowledge of course domain and at the same time an easy pool to get closure on numbers.
Also the articles that are been copy pasted are easily available in net and if you are a part of matured HR sites like ERE.net i dont think so people will have too much of alloted to read through those.
I network to people so that my market understanding grows more mature and its one of helping tool to close your requirements which are on fire.
IF u have so much time spending on so many recruitment networking channels than either you are not in serious business of recruitment.
As recruitment in current scenario (White collar recruiting is all about numbers).
Ask me i have found a no different ping in this link other than what is already available. of course if people want to connect with each other personally they will log in to orkut /facebook or space rather than in professional sites like Linkedin ,HR link in,Silicon India.
Open to discussion
But don't you think even HRLink.in appreciates those who have more points.
Im against just making number of contacts increase in your network cycle but at the same time its good to have variety of networked talent pool so that its an ease for one to enhance market knowledge of course domain and at the same time an easy pool to get closure on numbers.
Also the articles that are been copy pasted are easily available in net and if you are a part of matured HR sites like ERE.net i dont think so people will have too much of alloted to read through those.
I network to people so that my market understanding grows more mature and its one of helping tool to close your requirements which are on fire.
IF u have so much time spending on so many recruitment networking channels than either you are not in serious business of recruitment.
As recruitment in current scenario (White collar recruiting is all about numbers).
Ask me i have found a no different ping in this link other than what is already available. of course if people want to connect with each other personally they will log in to orkut /facebook or space rather than in professional sites like Linkedin ,HR link in,Silicon India.
Open to discussion
I have gone through the articles posted …good topic Mr.Balaji...
all points of view shared are highly appreciable…however, I agree with Harish …
Since we are here to expand our network with other professionals in the same industry…we might have all members in our contact list , there is a pool of fresher /Junior executives / Sr. executives /AMs / Managers and other higher designations, but the question is, are you in touch with all of them !? do you know their profile thoroughly !? NO!!
many times it happens that you read a post which interests you and it has been shared by one of your contacts….but you really don’t recollect who is he/she ? or when and how did you get into each other’s contact list… naturally, you will go to his/her profile and get a summary of him/her….now, you can “decide” if you would like to be in touch with this “contact”…& know more about them, hereafter you will be able to create your “own” contact, provided their profile interests you, say, his/her job experience, the kind of help he/she can be to you, the reasons that they have actually joined this site…etc. This allows you to “choose” the right person who has common interests as you do…
I have received a lot many contact request of HRs from consultancies who were looking to associate with our Co. well nothing wrong in it…we may or may not have a click, but no harm in approaching…
Even if you have 1000 contacts in your list…& you get acquainted with only one of them very well…I think it’s a deal…you need not worry about the remaining 999 whom you do not know at all… and who knows, you may need them in future…
I believe this is the right way of building a healthy, useful network… specially for an HR, having a good network is very very important…all the while…
And sometimes, its all about the “ favor game “… you get your job done by “Mr.A”… “Mr.A” will expect the same from you, for his own benefit or may be for a “Mr.B” who once upon a time has done a favor to “Mr.A”… automatically, you will get to know “Mr.B” and his circle of friends indirectly… hence, the chain goes on…
Not only my friends, but their siblings and their siblings’ friends also get in touch if they need any help like job placements…or looking for a change…
We always need a good, useful network… quality of your group is more important than quantity…it should be a give and take formula…
all points of view shared are highly appreciable…however, I agree with Harish …
Since we are here to expand our network with other professionals in the same industry…we might have all members in our contact list , there is a pool of fresher /Junior executives / Sr. executives /AMs / Managers and other higher designations, but the question is, are you in touch with all of them !? do you know their profile thoroughly !? NO!!
many times it happens that you read a post which interests you and it has been shared by one of your contacts….but you really don’t recollect who is he/she ? or when and how did you get into each other’s contact list… naturally, you will go to his/her profile and get a summary of him/her….now, you can “decide” if you would like to be in touch with this “contact”…& know more about them, hereafter you will be able to create your “own” contact, provided their profile interests you, say, his/her job experience, the kind of help he/she can be to you, the reasons that they have actually joined this site…etc. This allows you to “choose” the right person who has common interests as you do…
I have received a lot many contact request of HRs from consultancies who were looking to associate with our Co. well nothing wrong in it…we may or may not have a click, but no harm in approaching…
Even if you have 1000 contacts in your list…& you get acquainted with only one of them very well…I think it’s a deal…you need not worry about the remaining 999 whom you do not know at all… and who knows, you may need them in future…
I believe this is the right way of building a healthy, useful network… specially for an HR, having a good network is very very important…all the while…
And sometimes, its all about the “ favor game “… you get your job done by “Mr.A”… “Mr.A” will expect the same from you, for his own benefit or may be for a “Mr.B” who once upon a time has done a favor to “Mr.A”… automatically, you will get to know “Mr.B” and his circle of friends indirectly… hence, the chain goes on…
Not only my friends, but their siblings and their siblings’ friends also get in touch if they need any help like job placements…or looking for a change…
We always need a good, useful network… quality of your group is more important than quantity…it should be a give and take formula…
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