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Priyanka
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Posted 29-08-2009Reply

Dear HRLink'an,



Vishal, my friend is having a problem, hope will solve his problem.



Vishal is working for one small recruitment firm doing recruitments for Non-IT professional, he is in consultancy since last 1 year. He was badly looking for change but in recession he was not able to move from his assignment, as every recruitment was freeze.



Now all of a sudden Vishal got a call from one of the top fortune 500 company in IT sector, which is his target industry or rather targeted sector, fortunately he got selected also for that assignment.



Now the main problem is, this asignment is on contract basis, that is on 6 months contract which is extendable but they have very strict policy to make it parmanant, he hv to searve min 3 yrs wid that co den they will think of making him parmanant. They want immediate joining, where, in his current company he have to searve min 1 months notice period to get all the documents like experience certificate and all.



So, can u suggest him, what should he do now??? can u suggest him to take that opportunity or will suggest to wait for another 2-4 months to recover the market. And do u think market will recover soon specially for HR field, and he will get this kind of company....???



Remember, he is from Non-IT feild and IT is his target sector.

He is a B.com + MBA.



Waiting for your early, earlier and earlist reply. Because there are so many people like Vishal , those who are confused abt der career.. ur suggestion will help dem.



Regards

Priyanka

Elizabeth
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  Rated +6 | Posted 29-08-2009

Hi Priyanka,

I do not have any experience of taking decisions like these... but still here's what I think..

I truly believe your friend Vishal should take up the new offer.

Its a very good company, its his target industry/sector and in these times of recession he still managed to get into a company like that. He just has to give it his best, ensure his work and effort gets noticed and then make his case for getting permanent in the company after the 6 months get over.
Of course, he will somehow have to workout the one-month notice period thing. Maybe explaining to the company he is joining and/or the consultancy firm he is leaving might work out.

In any case, if after 6 months he doesn't get permanent, he still has a great experience to write in his resume. And the job he is currently doing, being available in plenty, he can easily get in another firm.

And, if we are being optimistic here, let's just say we can start hoping that the worst of the recession is behind us and things are improving.

Taking a risk when the opportunity is so good should pay off for better than worse!

All the best!

Pradeep
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  Rated +6 | Posted 29-08-2009

Hi Priyanka!
"Climbing to the top demands strength, whether it is to the top of Mount Everest or to the top of your career."-Abdul Kalam
These words of Dr Abdul Kalam sums up my opinion Priyanka.
I agree with what was expressed by Elizabeth to great extent and I would like to add very few things to what she has already mentioned very clearly.
If it is the ambition of your friend to get that most coveted job then let him join that job without any second thougt. Don't be so highly caluculated and one can't really say how the job market will be in next six or eight months.Even it gets better, your friend may not get the job which he got now.Opportunities does not come as and when we want but we should seize those opportunities as when they come.
Then the notice period thing, let him tell the new company people about the notice period he has to serve in the present organization and if they are willing to wait for him for one month then its quite good or if they want him to join immediately he has to do so after submitting resignation to his present employer and explaining them very well about his inability to serve the notice period and there will always be a clause to surrender the leaves, if any and if leaves are not there he may have to pay one month salary in lieu of notice period to the present employer.
If your friend is really fortunate to get his dream job as rightly said by you, then why you both are thinking about it, let him grab that opportunity and let him impress his superiors and prove his mettle so that he can be made permanent and if you both feel that this is very good offer then don't mind to let him sign the service agreement for three years if that is really his dream job subject to the assurance in writing that this job is a permanent one given by the new employer.
Hope I have clarified almost all the points raised by you.
Convey my best wishes and good luck from me and on behalf of all members of HRNA to Vishal.
Cheers!
Pradeep

Tara
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  Rated +2 | Posted 30-08-2009

Hey Priyanka,good to know that you are so concerned about your friend.
Coming to the point - if he has to accept the job offer which he has bagged as a dream come true is something very positive sign of his achievement.I do accept the fact that lady luck knocks the door once in a while,but ask your friend that he would get still better opportunity further.Global market is picking up slowly and he il get a best job. let him start getting to know the IT recruitment process as well,he should be very perfect into the software technologies and may be by post Christmas or so he can start psoting his resume for a IT consultant.
Dont bind yourself to any organisation by submitting your documents and signing a bond for such a long period.This is what I suggest and pls do ask few of your friends regarding their decision and take the best suggestion.

Cheers
Tara

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  Rated +4 | Posted 31-08-2009

Thanks Priyanka to send me an invite to suggest you on this topic, though i will not take me as the perfect person for the decision making advice but still on your invite i will surely say what i think as a job consultant and as i m looking towards the current changes in the market.
I read all suggestions already given and i respect them.

1.What is more imp for your friend - being associated with this company or stability in the career, i mean to say i will never suggest a person to join a company just to add name in the resume
As you might be knowing i m in to IT recruitments, ya, its true getting associated be a brand name is good but i will like to tell you we as a job consultants don't favor to send temporary resumes for our clients as i m dealing with giants (Microsoft, CSC, HP, Hewitt, and many more) not even my clients prefer to take temp candidates even from very good names

2.Effect of recession was seen on such persons mostly, company take such persons on the projects which are likely to be continued but not sure, also it is not sure that they will make him permanent.They can shade off anytime as he is temp with them as an extra fat.

3.Recession effect is almost gone, ask him not to wait for the perfect opportunity, try up to die hard level and i m sure if he has such an offer from this company he can have other offers from as well.

4.He has to serve at least 3yrs to get permanent, Priyanka i have seen persons leaving tycoons of the market in such a period , dear water should be flowing otherwise starts stinking. Don't know when your friend gets other suitable opportunity in this period of time or as said earlier who knows they will make him permanent or not.

Now lets talk on positive side - If he is firm for this company

1.Company is good, let him prepare his mind to join for 6months and be prepared for the worse, it will be more positive approach as if anytime that company ask him to resign he can leave as he is already prepared rather then thinking to be permanent and get bad heart, as why he took this decision?

2.The notice periods are now a days buyable, he can negotiate both of his companies for the notice period, every company will give experience certificate, but he has to pay the amount of the notice period, if he is getting the dream job then it hardly matters what is the cost.

3.But please again i will ask him to be very clear about terms and conditions, i will not suggest him to sign 2-3 yrs bond, anytime situation can change.
He should try to have other options with him.

Priyanka personally i believe to have stable career where you can have your career as well as personal growth rather then running behind the name.
At least you can sleep well in the night without thinking every time what if i will be kicked off any time or ask him to be strong for only 6 moths (they can ask him to leave within 6 months also)

Now ask him to close his eyes and tell himself honestly - is he taking this opportunity as his conditions now are like that or he really wanted to go for this whatever happens or whatever his conditions may be.

If he is taking it only on the ground of present situation then he is making a wrong decision - better he should wait and enter where he can give and take the best may be after few months.
If he might have taken this opportunity what the conditions were then let him take.

Priyanka there is one person who can solve your all problems very well, to know that person go and stand in front of the mirror, personally i believe sit alone, think positive, believe in yourself, take deep breath and now answer yourself, every question has its answer in your own mind. Let him decide what is best for him rather then us.

If you further want any clearification on my any point please ping me i m here at your corner or if he want to discuss this directly you can get my number on my job postings.

Thanks

best wishes

Priyanka
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  Rated 0 | Posted 31-08-2009

Dear Elizabeth, Pradeep, Tara, Shipra,

M honoured with your advise and ur time to write all these things.

I knw, every coin has two side Positive and Negative... same with this situation also... there are positive points as well as negative points also attach to it.

I agree with Elizabeth, Pradeep, Tara that this is gonna be gr8 opportunitry for him which all of a sudden he got. It may be impossible for him to get this kind of opportunity in near future as he is from non-IT background and moving to IT setup, and that too get company like this. As we all knw, HR opening are one which need very stronge network cause genarally these openings (HR) get close internally only. And again we cant predict when this recession will get over.. no doubt market is showing some positive sign of recovery... but dnt find anything for HR... need very stronge network and contacts.

At the same time M 100% agree to Shipra also, that there are 200% risk attach to it, and its difficult to take a deep, quite sleep in neight, as u hv a sword next to u. He should wait for next couple of months to get a good opportunity like this. Common People cant predict the future... God knws what future wants to say to us... Even sitting alone, talking with mirror cant help for the market.

He is confident on his performance, his target, but he is not confident on the market. He has doubts on market.

Waiting for more reply... to get more clarity on this situation...
Hope all the expert people like these will reply soon.

Regards
Priyanka



Shipra
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  Rated 0 | Posted 31-08-2009

Priyanka,

i hope you have got the best solution and there is no need for more suggestions, i am happy that it seems to be on conclusion. As you said for positive and negative aspect, it is very imp to have both suggestions then only we can come on the best conclusion.he should join without giving a second thought.

Lets pass 6 months first then we all are here to provide him openings , why to worry.

Shipra
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  Rated 0 | Posted 31-08-2009

Dear Elizabeth, Pradeep, Tara, Shipra,



M honoured with your advise and ur time to wri... See Priyanka's complete reply


Priyanka,

Sitting in front of the mirror can never take you out from the market situations, i just said this to decide which way to go as i told you both positive and negative aspect of the situation as per your problem. As only he can decide well where to go. I m telling you this way of confidence in yourself can take out from any bad situation.

thanks

Pradeep
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  Rated +1 | Posted 31-08-2009

Thanks Priyanka to send me an invite to suggest you on this topic, though i will not take me as the ... See Shipra's complete reply


Shipra, your analysis is too impressive and like a coin having two sides you have presented two sides but ended up concluding without any decision from your side.If you are in the same situation how would have handled this and what would be your decision?
Everyone is a better judge in his own case and this is quite known and if I strongly feel to do a thing I'll do it without asking for a second opinion as we very well know about our strengths and weaknesses rather than a second person.
So I would like to see one more critical angle to your analysis and I want a decision from you.
Cheers!
Pradeep

K Narayan
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  Rated +2 | Posted 01-09-2009

Dear Friends,
The problem one is facing may be the problem of others also. At present I feel it is better to have wait and watch technique. The dream company may remain dream. Stability is an important factor to be considered. The commitments of the person has to be first calculated. Can he / she survive in case he / she is rejected after six months?
At what age the person is taking such risk (The risk taking capcity)?
How far his / her degree can help him in his new assignment?
Is he / she can prove to be fit in the new environment?
Jobs are plenty but to get it is not easy?
Let the paerson think before jumping to a conclusion.
I think if he / she is of age group of 25-30 there is no harm.
If he / she can support after the unexpected worst to happen, then he / she must opt for the oppertunity otherwise there is no point to dream for a sad ended dream.

Srikanth
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  Rated +2 | Posted 01-09-2009

hi Priyanka,
Good day to you!
in reference to your doubt, if there is a possibility of paying one month notice period amount to the old company , then ask vishal to pay and get releived immediately else ask him to request the new company for one months time.

as the reliving letter and experience letters are mandatory for record purpose even for vishal in future.

coming back to the market revival, we cannot expect the market to bounce back soon. it may atleast take 6 - 8 months more for the market to go up.

so ask your friend to accept the offer try to get relieved from the old job as soon as possible.

thanks
Srikanth
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